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E77: Tech work culture, crypto regulation, stablecoins, $NFLX & more w/ Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong

Sat, 23 Apr 2022 06:10:28 +0000
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Bob Chapek will lose his job as CEO of Disney before the end of calendar year 2022 as a result of the political and employee-activism controversy in Florida.
I don't think he's going to survive the year after what just happened at Disney.View on YouTube
Explanation

Bob Chapek was CEO of The Walt Disney Company from February 25, 2020, until he was dismissed by the board on November 20, 2022, when Bob Iger was brought back as CEO. This is clearly before the end of calendar year 2022, matching the timing element of the prediction. (en.wikipedia.org)

In early 2022, Chapek’s handling of Florida’s Parental Rights in Education Act (the “Don’t Say Gay” bill) sparked intense internal and external backlash. He initially declined to publicly oppose the bill and emphasized that corporate statements could be “counterproductive,” which drew strong criticism from Disney employees and creative talent, prompted open letters, and led to walkouts and public apologies, as well as a pause in Florida political donations. (cnbc.com) This controversy significantly damaged his standing with employees and the public and became one of the defining political/activism crises of his tenure.

When the board removed Chapek in November 2022, reporting based on board and executive sources described the decision as a response to a string of missteps that caused "irreparable damage" to his ability to lead and eroded confidence among Wall Street, senior executives, and many employees. (disneyfoodblog.com) Those missteps are typically enumerated to include both his poor handling of the Florida bill and other issues (such as a disastrous November 2022 earnings report and large streaming losses), with the earnings call seen as the immediate trigger. (etfdb.com)

Because Chapek did in fact lose his job as CEO before the end of 2022 and the Florida political/employee-activism controversy is consistently cited as a major factor undermining his leadership (even if not the only cause), the prediction that he would not "survive the year" as CEO as a result of that controversy is best judged as essentially correct.

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Within the next few quarters after April 2022 (i.e., by roughly mid-2023), public-company CEOs will have clear, quantifiable business evidence from cases like Disney and Netflix showing that focusing on mission (like Coinbase’s approach) creates more shareholder value than accommodating internal political activism, and they will be able to use these numbers to justify adopting Coinbase-style policies.
in the next few quarters, I think CEOs will actually be better equipped to numerically point to why taking Brian's path is the value creating path for shareholders and for stakeholders, and the cost of getting distracted, quote unquote, can be really expensive if you if you are a for profit company.View on YouTube
Explanation

There has been enough time since April 2022 to see outcomes, but the evidence about corporate political engagement and shareholder value is mixed rather than clearly validating Chamath’s “Coinbase-style” path.

1. Disney and Netflix did not become clear, one-sided cautionary tales about activism.
Netflix’s 2022 stock collapse (down ~75% from late‑2021 to a low around $162) was widely attributed to streaming saturation, competition, and business-model issues; by mid‑2023 it had strongly rebounded above $400 after password‑sharing crackdowns and an ad tier, with analysts treating it as a strategic turnaround rather than a parable about internal political activism. (podscripts.co) Disney’s stock badly underperformed 2021‑2023, but mainstream analysis focuses on over‑investment in streaming, cord‑cutting, and park economics; its Florida “Don’t Say Gay” political feud is part of the narrative but not a consensus primary driver of valuation. (en.wikipedia.org) That makes it hard to claim there is simple, widely accepted numerical proof that their employee or cultural “wokeness” is what hurt shareholders.

2. Some numeric evidence does show activism can be costly, but it’s selective and contested.
Studies of corporate sociopolitical activism (CSA) up to and including 2023 find that, on average, CSA events trigger small negative abnormal stock returns, with misaligned activism (against key stakeholders’ values) causing larger drops, and well‑aligned activism sometimes yielding modest gains. (jcsr.springeropen.com) High‑profile backlash cases like the 2023 Bud Light boycott show large, quantifiable damage (double‑digit U.S. revenue and sales declines and a substantial market‑cap hit) when branding is perceived as politically misaligned with core customers. (en.wikipedia.org) At the same time, broader coverage (e.g., the BBC’s “go woke, go broke” analysis) emphasizes that financial outcomes depend on execution and stakeholder alignment: some “woke” campaigns (Nike, others) have been commercially successful, so there is no clean, universal rule that activism destroys value. (feeds.bbci.co.uk)

3. CEO behavior and expectations have not converged on Coinbase’s apolitical model.
Brian Armstrong’s 2020 “mission‑focused, apolitical” memo at Coinbase remains a prominent example, but there has not been a broad wave of Fortune‑500 CEOs explicitly adopting Coinbase‑style “no politics at work” policies in 2022–2023; corporate sociopolitical activism is still common across large firms. (latimes.com) In parallel, surveys like the Edelman Trust Barometer in 2022–2023 show majorities of employees and consumers expect CEOs to speak out on societal issues (climate, discrimination, etc.), and see business leaders as key actors in addressing them, even while warning that companies must tread carefully to avoid politicization. (forbes.com) That push for engagement runs directly against a universal shift to Coinbase’s apolitical stance.

4. Net assessment.
Chamath forecast that within a few quarters, CEOs would be able to numerically show that Armstrong’s apolitical path is the clearly value‑creating one versus accommodating internal political activism, and use that as a basis for policy. What we actually see by mid‑2023 and beyond is:

  • real numerical examples both for and against visible sociopolitical stances;
  • ongoing academic evidence that activism is risky and often mildly value‑destructive, but sometimes beneficial when aligned; and
  • no clear, broad managerial consensus or behavioral shift toward Coinbase‑style apoliticism.

Because the data can be (and is) used by advocates on both sides, and there is no widely accepted, one‑directional “scoreboard” from Disney/Netflix or similar cases, the prediction that CEOs would have clear, one‑sided numerical proof that “Brian’s path” is superior is neither convincingly fulfilled nor cleanly falsified. The outcome is best described as ambiguous rather than clearly right or wrong.

Chamath @ 00:53:38Inconclusive
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As Google rolls out Apple-style privacy changes on Android over the next product cycles (starting in 2022), the effectiveness of online ads will further decline, driving customer acquisition costs higher for companies that rely heavily on paid digital acquisition, making their growth meaningfully more expensive going forward.
it's really hard for these ads to be as effective as they used to be. And it's only going to get worse because Google has also said that they're going to implement a lot of the same versions of what Apple did inside of Android. So customer acquisition is going up. So if you look at then all the companies that have to live and die on Ckac, it's going to be an expensive, um, road.View on YouTube
Explanation

Google did announce and begin testing more privacy-preserving ad tech on Android (Privacy Sandbox) in 2022, with the explicit goal of limiting cross‑app identifiers like the Advertising ID and moving to on‑device APIs, which was framed as a softer, more gradual analogue to Apple’s App Tracking Transparency (ATT).(blog.google) However, these changes have not been fully rolled out in a way comparable to Apple’s ATT. Privacy Sandbox on Android has remained in limited beta on subsets of Android 13+ devices and required explicit enrollment by ad-tech and app partners, rather than being a universal, default change.(cyberinsider.com)

By 2024–25, industry reports and Google’s own materials continued to describe the GAID/Android Advertising ID deprecation as a future event, with marketers being told to prepare for coming signal loss rather than describing it as already complete.(appsflyer.com) In parallel, GAID remained widely usable on Android, and roadmaps from ad‑tech vendors talked about a GAID sunset around 2025–26, not as something that had already happened.(oemad.ai) In October 2025 Google then effectively ended the Privacy Sandbox initiative (for both Chrome and Android) and backed away from fully removing third‑party cookies in Chrome, citing low adoption and regulatory pressure.(en.wikipedia.org) This undercuts the premise that Apple‑style tracking limits have actually been imposed at scale on Android so far.

On the advertiser side, there is clear empirical evidence that Apple’s ATT materially hurt ad effectiveness and raised acquisition costs, especially on iOS, and that some of this pressure spilled into broader digital ad markets.(macrumors.com) But the incremental effect specifically attributable to Android OS–level privacy changes after 2022 is not cleanly observable yet: Android’s Privacy Sandbox has been partial and experimental rather than a hard switch, and platforms like Meta have reported recovering or improving ad performance by 2024–25 thanks to AI‑driven targeting and measurement, which complicates any simple “ads will only get worse from here” story.(ts2.tech)

Because (1) the key mechanism Chamath pointed to—full, Apple‑style rollout of privacy restrictions on Android—has not actually occurred at scale yet, and (2) available data do not let us isolate a clear, Android‑driven step‑up in CAC beyond the already‑known Apple and regulatory impacts, it’s too early to say whether his specific forward‑looking claim about Google’s Android changes making growth “meaningfully more expensive” has come true.

Over the next several years, as 7–9 major streaming competitors invest heavily in content, Netflix will no longer be able to dominate the streaming market or earn the outsized returns it historically enjoyed; instead, those returns will be spread across multiple services.
all of those returns will now get spread across seven or 8 or 9 competitors. Which means that just by definition, mathematically, Netflix can't win the way that they used to.View on YouTube
Explanation

Chamath’s claim was that as 7–9 big streaming competitors ramped spend, “all of those returns will now get spread across seven or 8 or 9 competitors…Netflix can’t win the way that they used to.” Evaluated by late 2025, the evidence points the opposite way on economic returns.

  1. Netflix still clearly leads in scale and usage.

    • Netflix surpassed 300M global subscribers by the end of 2024 and remains the largest subscription video service; Disney’s services (Disney+ and Hulu) and Max are materially smaller in aggregate, even though they’ve grown. (forbes.com)
  2. Profit pool is not widely shared; Netflix captures the bulk of it.

    • Netflix’s revenue grew ~16% YoY in Q2 2025 to over $11B, and it raised its 2025 operating‑margin target to roughly 29–30%, an extremely high margin for a media business. (tvtechnology.com)
    • Analyses repeatedly describe Netflix as the only consistently profitable major streamer; rivals are only recently breaking even or earning low single‑digit margins. (tvrev.com)
    • Disney’s streaming segment only turned modest profit in 2024–2025, with full‑year 2024 streaming profit of just $134M and much lower margins than Netflix (around 5% vs. Netflix near 30%). (thewrap.com)
    • Other big services remain structurally weaker: Apple TV+ is still reportedly losing about $1B per year, and Paramount+ sits inside a parent company posting overall losses and cost‑cutting/layoffs. (thetimes.co.uk)
    • This is the opposite of “all of those returns” being spread evenly; most of the durable profit pool still accrues to Netflix.
  3. Market verdict: Netflix is again viewed as the dominant winner.

    • Netflix’s share price has massively outperformed over the last several years, enough that the company executed a 10‑for‑1 stock split in November 2025 after trading above $1,100 per share; its market cap (~$450B+) now exceeds that of Disney, Comcast and Warner Bros. Discovery combined in some analyses. (reuters.com)
    • A 2025 upgrade from Loop Capital explicitly argued that “Netflix has won the streaming wars” on the back of its leading share of TV viewing and the largest content budget. (barrons.com)
    • Even Disney’s CEO Bob Iger has publicly called Netflix “the gold standard” in streaming and says Disney is building Netflix‑like economics, underscoring that Netflix’s business model and profitability remain the benchmark rather than one peer among many equals. (aol.com)
  4. Competition is broader, but hasn’t prevented Netflix from “winning.”

    • Netflix’s share of original‑content supply and demand has declined as more services launched, showing that viewing time and catalog share are more distributed than in 2015–2019. (linkedin.com)
    • However, that broader competition has not translated into evenly distributed financial returns; Netflix remains the dominant profit generator and stock‑market winner in subscription streaming.

Because the central part of Chamath’s prediction was about Netflix losing its ability to win economically as returns were spread across many peers, and current data show Netflix still enjoying by far the strongest margins, profits, and investor returns in streaming, the prediction is best classified as wrong.

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Elon Musk will attend and speak at the upcoming All-In Summit event referenced in this episode (the 2022 All-In Summit).
Oh, is that what it says on the website? Yeah, he's on the website now.View on YouTube
Explanation

Multiple independent reports confirm that Elon Musk did, in fact, appear as a featured guest and speak at the All-In Summit 2022 in Miami, the event referenced in the April 23, 2022 episode.

  • A CleanTechnica write-up explicitly states that “Tesla CEO Elon Musk recently spoke… at the All-In Summit 2022” and describes his full summit presentation about Tesla’s multiple business lines, identifying him as “a guest at the All-In Summit 2022 held by All-In Podcast hosts Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya, David Friedberg, and David Sacks.” (cleantechnica.com)
  • The Wikipedia entry on the All-In podcast lists Elon Musk as one of the “notable speakers” at the 2022 All-In Summit in Miami Beach, Florida. (en.wikipedia.org)
  • A Washington Post report about a later Twitter-related subpoena notes that the document specifically asked for information about the All-In Summit 2022 and states that “Musk spoke at the event via videoconference.” (washingtonpost.com)
  • Entrepreneur likewise reports that “Musk spoke at ‘The All In Summit 2022’… on video,” confirming his participation in the program as a speaker. (entrepreneur.com)
  • Coverage from TechNode and the Observer recounts comments Musk made at the All-In Summit 2022 in Miami about WeChat being “really an excellent app” and “a good model” for Twitter, further corroborating that he spoke at the summit. (technode.com)

Although some sources specify that his appearance was via videoconference rather than in-person, he was a billed summit guest and delivered remarks during the event. That satisfies the prediction that he would attend (as a featured participant) and speak at the 2022 All-In Summit.