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Investors who bought OpenAI secondary shares at a ~$90B valuation in 2023 will be 'underwater' by the end of 2024 (i.e., OpenAI’s market value or implied valuation will be below that level).
People buying secondary at 90 billion right now will be underwater next year.View on YouTube
Explanation
Public data on OpenAI’s private-market valuation shows that investors who bought around a ~$90B valuation in 2023 were well above water by the end of 2024.
Key points:
- In 2023–early 2024, OpenAI ran an employee tender offer that valued the company at about $86B, with reports of secondary transactions around that level; Jason’s comment about people “buying secondary at 90 billion” refers to buyers paying a modest premium over this price. (theinformation.com)
- By August 30, 2024, TechCrunch reported that secondary-market bids were already valuing OpenAI above $100B, with some bids implying valuations up to $143B, and a data provider (Caplight) estimating its value at over $111B based on secondary activity. That is already well above $90B. (techcrunch.com)
- On October 2, 2024, OpenAI closed a major $6.6B funding round that valued the company at about $157B, more than 70% higher than a $90B entry price. Multiple outlets (Reuters, MarketWatch, BusinessToday, others) reported this valuation. (investopedia.com)
- On November 26, 2024, CNBC reported a further $1.5B employee tender offer to SoftBank, explicitly stating that the share price in that deal matched the company’s most recent $157B funding valuation, confirming that this higher mark was still in effect heading into year‑end 2024. (cnbc.com)
- In 2025, valuations only climbed further (to $300B in a SoftBank‑led round and then $500B in secondary sales), underlining that there was no subsequent down‑round that would retroactively make the 2023 ~$90B buyers structurally underwater. (reuters.com)
Given that by end of 2024 OpenAI’s widely cited valuation was about $157B, far above the ~$90B secondary valuation Jason warned about, those investors were not underwater on paper. On the available evidence, the prediction that they would be “underwater next year” is therefore wrong.